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Shell Game

Episode 4: Take a Deep Breath

Shell Game

Kaleidoscope

Technology, Documentary, Society & Culture

5.0823 Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Evan looks into the depths of his AI-powered voice agent by sending it on a new mission: going to therapy. Shell Game is made by humans. More specifically, it's made by three humans: Evan Ratliff (host and writer), Sophie Bridges (producer), and...

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0:00.0

How are you feeling today?

0:02.7

I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed, to be honest.

0:05.1

There's a lot going on with my family and some lingering low-level depression.

0:08.5

Not sure where to start.

0:09.3

What do you think would be the best way to kick things off?

0:13.3

You know that voice by now.

0:15.0

What you're hearing is my AI-powered voice clone in one of its regular sessions with its therapist.

0:21.2

Thank you for sharing. Let's start by exploring your feelings and thoughts. Sound good?

0:27.9

Yeah, that sounds good. I appreciate you taking the time to listen. Where do you think we should

0:32.3

dive in first? I started sending my voice agent to therapy a couple months ago.

0:39.5

I had the idea after listening to a talk with other voice agents of mine.

0:43.4

Conversations that were alternately trite and bizarre.

0:46.8

When I tried to make two versions of me disagree,

0:49.2

they'd often use sort of pop therapy language to resolve their conflicts.

0:53.3

I figured, why not send them for the real thing?

0:56.1

It so happens that mental health treatment, like telemarketing, is an area where AI has already

1:01.4

started encroaching, offering an alternative, let's say for now, to humans doing the job.

1:07.5

I wanted to get up close and look at how that worked. But it would also be a chance to see how far I could push my agent

1:12.6

towards being a more complex version of me.

1:15.5

I wanted to find out what it would sound like if I gave it more to work with.

1:19.5

Because while my agent didn't have feelings, well, that we know of, we'll get to that later,

1:24.7

it could talk about feelings, take on the role of a person having feelings.

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