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On the Media

Episode 4 of American Emergency: The Movement to Kill FEMA

On the Media

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4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

FEMA’s uncertain future. Plus, what happens when the next disaster strikes?

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Brooke. You know, when Micah and Eloise, his producer, were out for long stretches

0:07.6

working on the series, I did ask myself once or twice, what is it about FEMA? What is it we don't

0:12.5

already know? But wow, this was new, gripping, painstaking original reporting. But as great as Micah and Eloise are,

0:23.4

there is another person who made it possible, and that's you.

0:27.8

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0:31.7

for our show and for the whole station.

0:34.4

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0:37.3

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0:48.4

Thank you. And now the final episode of American Emergency.

0:56.7

On this week's On the Media from WNYC,

1:00.0

the Trump administration has threatened to kill,

1:02.8

or at least maim, the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

1:06.6

But FEMA isn't going down without a fight.

1:09.1

I'll also be signed an executive order to begin the process of fundamentally reforming and overhauling FEMA or maybe getting rid of FEMA.

1:16.7

I think, frankly, FEMA's not good.

1:18.5

We were tasked to write a memo on how we would abolish FEMA.

1:23.6

He proceeded to berate me over the fact that the media got a hold of a story and was running

1:28.3

a topic that they felt was too sensitive and not fit for public domain.

1:32.2

The topic was abolishing FEMA.

1:34.5

Correct.

1:35.1

President Trump has just announced that Homeland Security Secretary Christy Knoam is out of a job.

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