Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I'm Dory Shafrier.

And I'm Elise Hugh and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

And today we have a very illustrious guest.

You know her name.

And you probably have heard her shows.

Or watched her shows.

Or watched her shows.

Because now she has a new series coming out on CNN.

Her name is Kara Swisher. Heard of her?

You know, sometimes people are like, do you guys have like famous guests on?

You ever got that question? Sometimes we do. Yeah, I feel like this is like one of those that people

will be like, oh, yeah, I know that person.

But she is a fascinating human being, and we had a great conversation with her.

So stay tuned for that.

Elise, what's been going on with you?

I have a couple updates.

I am in the middle of a crowd fund campaign, which I've never taken part in before. I've never done like a

Kickstarter or anything, but I'm learning a lot about it. One is it takes constant vigilance

because there's a ticking clock. So by the time this airs, it might be over or nearly over. I have until the end of April to raise

enough money, like 80% of our goal for Winswept. This is for the post-production. So we have shot most

of Winswept, a documentary about the kids who's lost their homes in the fires. And we've shot most

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