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On this episode of Newt's World, my guest today wrote an article in Tuesday, March 22nd,

for the Washington Times entitled The Death of Mad and the Urgent Need to Reestablish Deterrence.

As we've watched Putin's invasion of Ukraine unfold, the topic of defense as well as deterrence has been on my mind.

So I'm really looking forward to this conversation. Since the 1950s, we've relied on deterrence to stop anyone

from using nuclear weapons because the reaction would be so terrible and for 70 years it worked.

Now we're moving into a world where we need to consider what defending is going to mean for

nuclear or cyber attack as well as rebuilding an effective deterrence. And I'm really pleased to

welcome my guest, Cliff May, founder and president of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies

and the author of the Washington Times article. The foundation for defense of democracies is a

Washington DC based non-partisan non-profit research institute focusing on national security

and foreign policy. And I have to say it brings together some of the smartest people

thinking about national defense in the entire country and Cliff May is their leader

and has done an amazing job.

Cliff, thank you for joining me. In your Washington Times article, the death of Mad,

you argue there is an urgent need to reestablish deterrence.

First, would you explain for our listeners exactly what Mad means mutually assured destruction?

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