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get some oh my god you are not alone You have found other people.

You and I have a friend in common.

Every stupid thing that a writer could do I've done.

I think it's really beautiful.

Jesus, did it what I struggle, you know?

It was incredible.

You know, it was like your head exploded, seeing what was really there.

And now here's your host, Brad Listy. Just one person at just one time. Hey, everybody, here we go again. This is it. This is other people. This is nominally about writing. This is over here in the desert. How's it going out there? How are you doing today? My name's Brad Listy. I'm in Los Angeles, California. And I appreciate you tuning in. I have a great show for you today.

My guest is Nick Kelman, author and screenwriter.

He has a new novel out from Dark Horse.

It's called How to Pass as Human.

It's about an android.

And Nick and I will be discussing that and a bunch of other stuff in just a moment.

I hope you guys had a nice Thanksgiving, my American listeners

or my Americans listening abroad who might have celebrated in a foreign land. I hope the holiday

wasn't too emotionally taxing or logistically complicated. Mine was relatively easy. I stayed here

in Southern California. We have a new baby, so we're not going

anywhere. If I have anything to say about it. I typically try very hard to avoid traveling during

the holidays anyway. But the baby gives us a good excuse to not have to deal. And don't get me

wrong. I love to travel. it's probably my favorite thing to do

I just don't want to do it when everyone else is doing it and as I say this like literally as I

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