Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I'm Dori Shafriere.

And I'm Elise Hugh, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

Elise, do you want to tee up our amazing guest today? We have the multi-talented Charlene Kaye on our show today.

She is a musician. She is a comedian. She is a guitarist, a dancer. She's like so many things. She's a creator. I originally

discovered her because I originally discovered her in a way that many of you may have

discovered her if you're already following her on TikTok or Instagram, which is she makes these

songs. She writes these songs that are like,

every Taylor Swift song is like. And then she performs basically what sounds like a Taylor Swift song

by deconstructing the elements of it in order to help us learn a little bit about it. And she did

that for Ed Sheeran. She's done it for Chapel Rhone.

And as we learned during our conversation, the artists like it. They have reached out to be like, oh my God, you figured it out.

Most of them like it. Yes. Teaser. Yeah, it was really cool to talk to her. She's such a fascinating person and so interesting and so talented and like just cool.

And she had great lipstick on.

But if you want the details of her lipstick, you have to be a Patreon subscriber.

Sorry.

That's just how it worked out.

It's just how it worked out.

No, I meant to ask about it during the main episode and then I forgot.

And then during the Forever 35 questionnaire, which is the little bonus thing that we do with our guests every week on our Patreon.

I was like, oh, my God, the lipstick.

So, yeah, you can find that at patreon.com slash forever 35.

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