Thanks for tuning into this episode of the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Zach Bitter.

All right, Nicole, welcome back to the show.

Thanks for having me. Always an honor.

Yeah, so you've been doing some more podcast episodes lately.

You're too deep into your series on talking to people

who have had high caliber achievements, but also in sports, I should say, but also have a

demanding career is sort of the premise, right? Yeah, that's really what the focus is. And I think

I just like to hear their stories and how they really have a sense of balance.

Obviously, it's a challenge that I think a lot of people spend a lot of time thinking about and how they can, you know, really do their best to tackle a lot of different things

and try and perform at a high level.

So that's always been something that I've been interested in hearing from others and their

perspective.

Yeah, it's been fun to edit and publish those last couple, or actually the first couple episodes

of that.

And I'm looking forward to the rest of the series as well.

But for this episode, we're going to talk about a topic that I think is an interesting

one within the sport of ultra running, and that is training races.

So I don't actually know how that became a thing.

I mean, it's, people do, like, professional runners do tune-up races and other distances and things like that.

But it seems like it's maybe there's a unique spin to it with alt-running, given the distance of a lot of the events where, you know, if you're going to be doing something like 100 miles or further than that,

the draw or the kind of intuitive idea of going out and doing something that's still very long,

relatively speaking, but shorter than that 100 mile or beyond 100 mile distance beforehand as a

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