Hello, welcome to Hollywood crime scene. This is Rachel Fisher. This is Desi Jettican. We're here. Part three of our series on Michael Hutchins and Pauli Yates. I keep thinking of the lovely young person who commented on one of our Instagram posts saying they weren't going to read the Wikipedia so they wouldn't find out what happens. So I'm very sorry because

it is going to be very sad. And it's hard enough when you know what's going to happen to have to go

into the episode. Yeah. So my sources once again are Tina Hutchinson's book, Michael, my brother,

Lost Boy of In excess, the documentary Paula, Paula Yates' book, Michael, my brother, Lost Boy of In Excess, the documentary Paula,

Polly Yates' book, Paula Yates the autobiography, and Paula, Michael, and Bob, everything you know is

wrong by Jerry Agar. Part of why I'm late is there was a lot of difficulty pursuant parsing all the different books and point of views for instance in the new book um that I added this week Bob didn't write fucker or cunt on Michael's photo he wrote twat oh so this is like what? It's like Roshaman.

Maybe he wrote all of them.

We don't know.

So it's just been very difficult when you have so many point of views and I guess agendas.

I don't mean that in a negative way. But like obviously Michael's sister is going to have a more protective view of Michael than say Paula's

weird best friend in the Jerry Agar book. Believe me, my episode for next week is also,

I feel like there's multiple points of view. I'm kind of like, can I just have the official

version? Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, well, when did this happen? Because she's saying October,

she's saying June. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And it's just kind of like at some point, I'm just like, I guess it doesn't really matter necessarily when it happened. Right. But we try to be as accurate as possible. It's very interesting still. And I think we can all agree. These are two very complicated, layered people who had many sides and were many

different things to different people, much like we all are. So anyway, where we left off, Michael and

Paula have just done their infamous Big Breakfast interview, and I posted that clip on our Instagram.

I was just telling Rachel, I love hearing from so many people in the UK who actually

watched it as it aired and were watching in disbelief and just hearing everyone's memories

about it was really cool.

So before we move into this relationship of Michael and Paula, I did want to give a little

context to where

they're kind of at this point. Paula was really going through it by this time that they

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