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The Nothing Is Wasted Podcast

Episode 385 - Healing Leadership Trauma with Dr. Nicholas and Sheila Wise Rowe

The Nothing Is Wasted Podcast

Davey Blackburn and Aubrey Sampson

Religion & Spirituality:christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.91K Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

How can leaders heal from their own wounds? Why does emotional and spiritual health matter so deeply for those who are called to lead?Historian and Seminary Professor Dr. Nicholas Rowe and his wife, SheilaWise Rowe, author and counselor, have seen the ways unprocessed pain and trauma can impact leaders. While countless resources aim to help leaders grow in skill and strategy, few address the inner pain and unhealed wounds that many carry silently. In their new book, **Healing Leadership Trauma: Finding Emotional Health and Helping Others Flourish**, Nicholas and Sheila confront this gap head-on, offering a holistic and deeply spiritual roadmap for leaders to find healing, restoration, and renewed purpose.In this powerful and timely episode , Davey talks with Nicholas and Sheila about how our early formation can impact our connection with God and others, the ways unresolved trauma can unconsciously influence our decisions and leadership style, and why we need to consider the weight of leadership before we even step into it. Whether you're a pastor, teacher, nonprofit leader, entrepreneur, or parent, this conversation is an invitation to pause, reflect, and allow God to tend to your soul—so you can lead from a place of emotional health while helping others flourish. Website: www.sheilawiserowe.comwww.nicholasrowephd.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/griotrowe Instagram: www.instagram.com/sheilawiserowe Book: Healing Leadership Trauma: Finding Emotional Health and Helping Others Flourishhttps://amzn.to/3RVLYzW Episode 128 with Sheila Rowe: https://www.nothingiswasted.com/podcast1/episode-128?rq=128 Wondering where to get started on your journey towards healing? Join Davey on our next FREE, live Zoom call and find out how you can begin to take back your story and how Nothing is Wasted can help. Sign up today at: www.nothingiswasted.com/starthere Looking for help in navigating the valley of pain and trauma? Our Nothing is Wasted coaches can help: www.nothingiswasted.com/coaching Want a pathway through your pain? The Pain to Purpose Course can lead you through all you've been through: www.mypaintopurposeplan.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Nothing is Wasted podcast, where we meet you in your pain and help you discover a pathway through.

0:10.2

No matter what you've faced or what you're walking through now, we believe your story isn't over.

0:15.7

Each week, you'll hear powerful conversations with people who've partnered with God to reclaim their stories of trauma, loss, and heartbreak.

0:23.7

And we'll chat with Christian experts who offer wisdom and practical tools for healing.

0:28.8

This is a place of hope, redemption, and the reminder that even in your darkest moments, God is still writing your story.

0:36.5

Because with him, nothing is wasted. I'm your host,

0:40.7

Davey Blackburn. Well, hello, welcome to the Nothing is Wasted podcast. I'm so grateful you're

0:46.9

joining us for another great episode here where we meet you in your pain and provide you a pathway

0:53.6

through. Ultimately, we are having

0:55.3

conversations with people who are walking through the valley of the shadow of death, following

0:59.6

after Jesus in the midst of their pain and their trauma, not letting the enemy have the last

1:04.9

word in their life. And so we're so grateful that you're joining us here on this platform, because

1:10.7

that means that your heart is in the

1:11.9

same place that you know the enemy has tried to steal and rob from you some territory in your

1:17.4

life and you're standing up and saying hey i'm not going to let that happen i'm going to partner

1:21.1

with god to take back my story and so just grateful to spend some time with you this week

1:26.5

you know every week it seems that we hear about another leader falling, whether it be a pastor,

1:34.7

whether it be a nonprofit director, a public figure, somebody who is, it seems like crumbling

1:40.1

under the pressure of leadership.

1:43.1

But what if the real breakdown didn't begin when they fell?

1:48.0

What if it began long before in some of the hidden places of unresolved pain and trauma?

1:55.0

That's why I am so grateful we're having this conversation today with Dr. Nicholas Rowe and Sheila Wise Roe because I have often wondered that as the landscape of Christian leadership has shifted

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