that's been interesting is to watch that shifting dynamic because you know

Donald Trump is the kind of man who needs people to be afraid. He wants

Democrats and people who believe in democracy to be afraid of him. And he wants

his supporters to be afraid of their neighbors and friends and relatives who vote differently or pray differently or look

differently than they do.

The problem that he has now is that all across the country we are seeing that Americans are no longer afraid.

They're no longer afraid of Donald Trump. They're not afraid of Trumpism.

And I actually think it's the energy that is

feeling that is remarkable.

We have a situation where Democrats went from what

felt kind of like awake for democracy.

I mean, the anxiety, the dread of the election was palpable.

To now it just feels like a black family reunion and now on top of that you have a

governor in Tim Walles who I believe as someone who has family from the Midwest

UAW family both black and white my mother is a white woman. Tim Wall's is

essentially inviting Trump supporters into the party.

Hey, it's not so scary.

There's a place for you at the table.

So I think Trump is melting down and he's looking smaller and angrier

as is JD Vance as the crowds just get bigger. So this is really

doing some major psychological work on the former president but I think it's also just it's not just about the

Democrats this is a pro-democracy movement.

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