uses that word a lot.

neighbor, my neighbors.

Talk to us about what you perceive to be the importance of Tim Walsh,

coach Walsh on this ticket.

Yeah, I think it's a very significant moment.

I think John Heilman is right that a lot of us in the journalist or pundit class

are maybe a little bit slow on the uptake of what this is because we're used

to an older paradigm. I think a lot of us were trained in a pre-authoritarian Republican

you know,

a pre-Fascist Republican playbook running against people like Mitt Romney

and so strategies about swing states and and those kinds of things came out of those experiences.

We are now in a moment when the right in this country is an authoritarian movement,

increasingly fascistic movement.

And part of what you see in authoritarian movements around the world

is that they make people feel things, right?

They make people emotional.

They get the blood up.

And Democrats for too long have been running against authoritarianism with wonkiness

policy with material things with bridges and roads all very worthy things but not competing on the level of getting

the blood up making people feel and so I think this is a choice that shows and as you've

seen throughout the last two weeks.

This is a campaign that understands the importance of vibes.

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