Episode 381: Learning a New Life with Jen Hatmaker
Forever35
Doree Shafrir & Elise Hu
4.8 • 5K Ratings
🗓️ 15 December 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
Jen Hatmaker is back after living a lot of life since she was on Forever35 more than 5 years ago! She discusses her new book (Awake: A Memoir) about her life after her divorce, and looks back at her previous book (Fierce, Free, and Full of Fire), which came out just before she learned her husband of 26 years cheated on her. They touch on the relationship she and her kids have with religion and faith today, learning personal finance for the first time as a divorcee, and how she’s left the evangelical world behind.
And, Doree and Elise chat about their holiday plans and the fun ways Santa shows up for kids who are traveling for the holidays.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. |
| 0:15.2 | I'm Dori Shafrier. |
| 0:16.9 | And I'm Elise Hugh, and we are just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums. |
| 0:21.5 | And this episode features a return forever 35 guest, someone who was on in May of 2020 in a very different environment. |
| 0:35.3 | Yes, what a time that was. And her life has certainly changed a lot since she was last on the show. And she has a new book about it called Awake. And we are talking, of course, of Jen Hatmaker. We had such a great conversation with her. She is like one of those charismatic people I think I've ever spoken to. |
| 0:56.7 | Yeah, she's really fascinating. She was married to a pastor, famously kind of got ousted by the |
| 1:05.3 | evangelical movement, and she talks about that, and really wrestled with |
| 1:12.3 | her old identity, what her identity is now, |
| 1:15.7 | what faith means to her. |
| 1:17.3 | We had a great conversation. |
| 1:18.7 | So that's all coming up for our big guest interview |
| 1:22.6 | later in the show. |
| 1:24.2 | But first, we have some housekeeping notes. |
| 1:26.4 | I think our Patreon sale is still on. Is that |
| 1:28.5 | right? Do you? It sure is still on. It is on until this Friday, this Friday night. I think I said it for |
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| 1:50.2 | If you are a Patreon supporter or if you were last Wednesday, you got to see our live |
| 1:55.9 | casual chat, which was so much fun. |
| 1:58.3 | Thank you to everyone who joined us. And the recording of that is on our |
| 2:04.6 | Patreon now. So if you are a Patreon subscriber, you can check that out. We also do our regular |
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