Episode 380 - I Love Bees Part 2
Swish and Flick: A Harry Potter Podcast
Swish and Flick Podcast
4.6 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 2 November 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
We're picking back up with Part 2 – and Lorrie Kim is back again! Voldemort is about to get big mad when he finds out how far ahead Dumbledore and Harry are. McG brings the teachers together to help Hogwarts fight back. The battle is ON. Join us for Chapter 30 of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, The Sacking of Severus Snape!
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Swish and Flick, an All Potter podcast. |
| 0:06.4 | Swish and Flick, everyone? |
| 0:10.4 | Squish and flick. |
| 0:15.6 | Hey there, this episode is going to sound like it's starting off right in the middle of a conversation, |
| 0:20.6 | and that's because it is. |
| 0:21.9 | We talked so much we had to split our half of a chapter in half again. |
| 0:26.7 | So without further ado, enjoy the rest of our discussion and our classic chaos with Lori Kim. |
| 0:32.8 | It's been great. |
| 0:33.8 | All right. |
| 0:34.6 | Being a person. |
| 0:36.5 | Isn't it? |
| 0:37.4 | Yeah. |
| 0:39.1 | This is also, so McGonigal obviously is like quite taken aback by what Harry just did. |
| 0:47.0 | And she immediately tells him that that was foolish. |
| 0:50.0 | But then goes, it was gallant. |
| 0:53.3 | Oh, God, foolish. |
| 0:57.1 | And I remember that caused the biggest commotion in fandom, like in 2007, 2008, when people first read this. |
| 1:04.2 | Because is it that she's downplaying how evil that was? |
| 1:08.7 | Is she excusing it because it was Harry? |
| 1:14.0 | And readers weren't sure how much they trusted the author. Like, what are we supposed to think? This is one of those things that |
| 1:19.6 | shows me the value of rereading because the more you read this series and come to that, the more |
| 1:25.5 | you realize, no, no, no, this was meant to be a |
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