Very bad wizards is a podcast with a philosopher, my dad, and a psychologist, Dave Pizarro,

having an informal discussion about issues in science and ethics.

Please note that the discussion contains bad words that I'm not allowed to say, and knowing

my dad some very inappropriate jokes.

Welcome to very bad wizards, I'm Tamler Summers from the University of Houston.

Dave, when are you the real you?

When do I keep it real the most?

I think that I'm at the most real me, my most genuine self, when I'm scared shitless.

I'll give you an example.

I've actually been there.

So they're really, they're really used, shits, your pants?

No, no, but I've been driving, no, never.

I've been driving with a suspended license for some time, and the focus that that gives

you when you're driving is amazing.

And so I think that like one of the things about being who you're seeing who you really

are is how you act when you're afraid, because all of a sudden what's important, the priorities

kind of fall into focus.

So if you ever want to see the real me, just like why do you have a suspended license?

Like do we, I don't feel like this is interesting for our listeners.

Let's just say, let's just say I was a year in Canada and I just didn't, didn't, didn't

a lot of driving.

I didn't quite take care of the things that I ought to have before I left.

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