Hey there, welcome back to the show. This is Phil Visher. I'm here with Skye Jitani. Hello Phil. Hello everybody and Christian. Oops. No Christian. Christian actually had a babysitter problem and couldn't be here, but we have a special guest today.

Live via Skype, we'll be talking with David Kiniman of the Berner Research Group about religious freedom and America's opinions of religious freedom, a delightful conversation coming up later in the broadcast.

But now we have to do the theme song and no one requested a new character this week. Really? Yeah. How about you? Have you done Captain Pete? I think you have. I think I did, but I could do it again. I like Captain Pete.

Yeah, let's do it again. All right. Hey, it's a podcast. What do you know? Hey, it's a podcast. So has no video. Hey, it's a podcast. So in the near the Phil Visher podcast starts right here. We'll talk to Skye and Christian too, but she's not here. So we've got David Kiniman for you. Hey, it's a podcast. So in the near the Phil Visher podcast starts right here. Phil Visher podcast starts right here.

Pirates like to roll their ours. Yeah, I guess why I'm not a pirate. I can't do it. It's close to a growl. And it so it makes you feel aggressive. What unless you roll your ours like Roy Orbison.

And then it makes you feel a little like a cat call. Yeah, right. One of my favorite cartoons we ever had in leadership journal was a cartoon of a church choir. And then in the back row, there's a guy who's clearly a pirate.

And the choir director's all upset and all he says is, okay, who keeps singing how great that ours.

That's funny. Yeah. What is the what is the cartoon you've had in leadership journal that offended the most people?

I don't know what the cartoon is that offended the most. I definitely know the cover that offended the most. What was the cover? We had a cover a number of years ago about temptation.

Yeah, or a ministry in a sexually charged culture. I know where this is going. And we had a picture of a marble statue on the front cover. It was a woman.

There was a woman. There's like a very Greco Roman like Venus. Demile. Not that one. Not that one. I don't know. I know the armors were there. I don't remember. You could not see.

Oh, anyway, this female woman sculpture had this flowing toga kind of thing. But one of her breasts was exposed. Oh, and it was like nipple gate. Wow.

People were upset that they how could we even display this magazine at our church because how many subscriptions did you lose? I don't know, but it did cause a that's bit of a.

I hope you learned your lesson. I did not choose that cover because I noticed when we recorded the podcast, you have never exposed a nipple. No, but it is cold enough in here that you might see one through my shirt.

Oh, man. You know, if Christian was here, she would have just hit you over the head.

Super Bowl. We're a week late because we record these a week ahead of time or a few days ahead of time, but the Super Bowl happened.

Did you watch? I did watch. Really? Do you watch every year? Usually. Yeah. I don't care deeply. I'm not a huge sports guy. I didn't have a dog in this fight, but it was a good game.

Yeah, it was a good game with at least a second half was darn good. It was and the blackout was awesome. I loved it. Actually during the blackout, I did some sewing. What?

Okay, it's a long story. I don't want to. So during football. I don't normally so, but we had a it was I just had to fix some buttons on my coat. And I thought there's nothing going on here. I'm going to get out of sewing kit and fix my buttons.

So you're next to the fire. It was like comfortable with your masculinity. Absolutely. Sewing while watching football. I had to. It was driving me crazy. Betsy Ross. Turned out another flag. Something like that. It wasn't very kind of Saturday evening post cover moment.

Family with the fire going football playing and I'm sewing around the television hearth. Did you have a fire or was no, it was TV represent the fire had a real fire. What burning fire? Yeah. And did your kids watch the football? Yes, they did except my youngest daughter who's almost five. Yeah, she's not into football. No, she played with her imaginary her little imaginary friends. No, her toy had to make up because her father ignores her because he so's. Yeah, something. That's sad. Did you watch the game? I did. Yeah, with your family sewing.

In front of the fireplace. No, I was not sewing and we have no fireplace in our house. We just moved like 18 months ago. I know we're on two and a half acres out in the country. The house used to have a fireplace. House used to have a big stone fireplace.

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