There is hope for us yet.

I am Laura McCallin.

And I am Holly Whitaker.

This. And I am Holly Whitaker.

This is Home Podcast. Hi.

Hello.

So... Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

Yeah, I know, this is such a big deal.

So this is, what are we talking about?

Well, everybody already knows because the title.

It's not like we're revealing the secret here.

We're talking about Augustin Burrows and

on our interview with him, which was... Yeah the most the most exciting interview like

for me it has been it was a total life moment yeah Yeah, it was, you know, it was for me incredibly important and I think probably one of the things that I loved about it the most was him. I think I told you this he just he reminded me of my

sister's best friend Brandon who I grew up with as an older brother and there's

there's something I was so expecting a catty bitchy man and I for some reason

imagine his voice would be like long and deep and drawly and he was the sweetest sweetest thing.

The caty-fitchy gay man, that's what you were imagining.

Yeah, I thought, well I had him built up in my mind is, I mean he, you know, he's not, he's, you know, he talks about his mean brain, you know brain you know I mean he he the way that he

writes he's very you build up yeah he's super sarcastic and he said some mean

things you know and which I which I love it appreciate about him but I was expecting him to be intimidating

and what I found was just I mean he was so sweet and I really just I couldn't be more in love with with someone so yeah it was great

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