Episode 375: Katherine Eban

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Education, Arts, Books, News

4.7 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Katherine Eban is an investigative journalist and contributing writer at Fortune Magazine. Her new book is Bottle of Lies: The Inside Story of the Generic Drug Boom. “I am not known for my optimism. I think it’s hard to do this work and retain a sunny view of humankind. I hate to say that. On the other hand, I do believe there will always be whistleblowers. And it’s interesting to me that even in the darkest spaces, even when it looks like everything is arrayed against them, there are people who will say: ‘This just isn’t right, and I must do something.’ Which is kind of extraordinary.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. katherineeban.com @KatherineEban [08:00] “Bellevue's Emergency” (New York Times Magazine • 1996) [08:42] “Corrections Officials See Medical Neglect of Rikers Prisoners” (Observer • 1998) [08:44] “Complaints Prompt Scrutiny of St. Barnabas Hospital” (Observer • 1998) [12:04] Bottle of Lies: The Inside Story of the Generic Drug Boom (Ecco • 2019) [12:28] “Rorschach and Awe” (Vanity Fair • 2007) [19:23] The Report (2019) [21:25] Dangerous Doses: A True Story of Cops, Counterfeiters, and the Contamination of America’s Drug Supply (Ecco • 2019) [25:18] “Pharmacy Fakes” (Self • 2006) [41:28] “Dirty Medicine” (Fortune • 2013) [43:10] “Centre Mulling Action to Counter US Journalist's Allegations About Indian Pharma” (The Wire • 2020) [45:24] “The Truth About the Fast and Furious Scandal” (Fortune • 2012) [48:09] Eban's guide to investigating your own drugs [48:15] Eban's FAQs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	In December 2020, a Latino couple was falsely accused by a white momfluencer of attempting to kidnap her children.
0:07.0	The Karen phenomenon where white women falsely accuse people of color of crimes usually fixates on the
0:13.5	accuser the so-called Karen. But for this series we focus on the
0:17.2	innocent couple at the heart of this story. I just want the public to know
0:21.9	what she did was wrong.
0:24.0	In Perfect Paradise People versus Karen.
0:26.3	Available now wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and
0:36.0	welcome to the long form podcast. I am Evan Ratliff, one of the three co-host of the podcast.
0:41.0	The other two are right here, Linsky and Aaron Lamer hey hey
0:44.7	you guys how are you guys good well no lethargy whatsoever only one of you has
0:51.5	proper grammar who's on the show this week, man?
0:55.0	This week I talked to Catherine E-Ban,
0:58.0	who is an independent investigative journalist,
1:02.0	an incredible investigative journalist.
1:04.0	She has written a lot for Fortune.
1:07.7	She's written two big blockbuster books
1:10.0	about the pharmaceutical industry,
1:11.8	both of which are remarkably well reported and written.
1:16.9	And the most recent one's called Bottle of Lies and it's about generic drugs.
1:20.0	It was out in 2019.
1:22.2	And I was really eager to talk to her about how she
1:25.2	uncovers all this stuff and how she got into reporting on the health care
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