on American leadership. There's real concern among some of the heads of

state here and military leaders about what happened to NATO if Donald Trump were

to be elected again. What is your level of anxiety about that? Well, I think there's reason to be concerned for several reasons.

First of all, when he was president,

sad to say, when he was president, he said, he cast doubt as to whether we would honor our

mutual defense commitment that is in NATO and now he and then you purems say if people haven't say, if countries haven't paid their 2%, then Putin can have at them.

I mean, this is insane.

I think we should be spending a lot more time paying attention to what this

prospect is for our own national security. Joe Biden has been a part of expanding NATO, strengthening NATO,

in a really remarkable way, in a way that commands respect for our country

for being respectful of other views and timing.

And so it's the difference, the difference is, well, the contrast is so great, but in terms of

our national security, which is our responsibility to keep

people safe, that means globally and locally and in every way, Donald Trump is a danger to our country and people should

understand that and when he goes off and cozies up to Putin his buddy for

whatever reason.

You know, when I left that table with that pointing to him, I was saying,

with you, Mr President, all roads lead to Putin, and it still is true.

What's the connection? I don't know.

But whatever is, it's dangerous.

It's dangerous to the American people and global security.

I've been to Europe this year even before the debate. There were very serious concerns that

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