We've seen brave men overcome obstacles that seem insurmountable and forces that seem overwhelming.

Men with courage and vision can still determine their own destiny.

They can choose slavery or freedom, war or peace. I have

no doubt which they will choose.

That was then President Harry which they will choose.

That was then President Harry Truman speaking to world leaders at the NATO signing ceremony back in 1949. Today, leaders will gather in that same auditorium in Washington, D.C. to mark 75 years

since the world's most powerful security alliance was formed.

Wall Street Journal op-ed piece by Jerry Baker about how labor won a crushing victory in

part because populists and conservatives couldn't become

aligned in Britain. You're right, your piece is absolutely fascinating and a

lesson that a critical lesson going back to what you've been writing about for years and that is how to defeat populism.

You talk about two types of populism actually that labor was able to defeat.

How did how did they do it?

So and and this is relevant to the NATO summit too of course what the labor party did was reform itself and led by

Kere Starmer who is now the prime minister they they moved it away from far left positions that had had.

The previous leader, Jeremy Corbin, who lost a couple of elections with those.

They moved it, not just to the center, but they moved it to economic, local domestic issues.

So schools, hospitals, you know, the, you know, what people think about when they wake up in the morning.

They try to reconnect it with ordinary voters.

They talk about working people.

They talk about service.

You can hear it in all of their language and every every every every labor politician that I met last week

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