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Episode 371: The Dark Side of Beauty with Arabelle Sicardi

Forever35

Doree Shafrir & Elise Hu

Health & Fitness, Arts, Fashion & Beauty, Leisure

4.85K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Beauty writer Arabelle Sicardi joins Doree and Elise to discuss her fascinating new book The House of Beauty, which goes deep on topics like how beauty products are made, produced, and distributed around the world, including the connections between fragrance and fascism; hair and the empire of exploitation; and what it really means to live well and how that connects to biohackers and transhumanists.




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0:00.0

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0:32.1

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0:33.3

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0:35.3

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0:54.6

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1:18.2

Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

1:19.7

I'm Dori Shafrier.

1:23.4

And I'm Elise Hugh, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

1:25.2

Welcome to the show.

1:43.6

Today we have Arabelle Sikardi on the show. She is a beauty writer who has a new book out called House of Beauty that is a very interesting take on the beauty industry, like one that I haven't really seen before. It's kind of a taked down, if you will. I really enjoyed our conversation.

1:45.0

So we will get to her in a little bit. At least, how are you doing? All things considered, pretty good.

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