Hey, everybody. Before we begin today, a quick announcement.

This is episode 37, and it's going to be the final episode of season zero for other world.

I know that sounds bad, but it's actually good news. We're going to be taking a very quick break

and then coming back bigger and better than ever. I will explain that in more details at the end

of this episode. So stay tuned after the stories over. I have some exciting announcements.

Welcome to other world. I'm your host, Jack Wagner. This episode comes from a guy named Dennis

who had a terrifying experience in the woods that he wrote in to me about.

Dennis is currently a lawyer and so is the person he was on this trip with where he experienced all of it.

He seems like a really factual by the book research type guy, and I know he hesitated

for a while before sending this in. And what's interesting about this one is how much time he's

spent in the woods before all of this happened. He has a boy scout. He's climbed mountains.

He's spent a huge amount of time outdoors. In fact, I think once you hear him talk for just a

couple of minutes, you'll be able to tell how much of a nature nerd he is. This is not the type of

guy who gets spooked in the woods. Quite the opposite. I could tell he feels very in control when he's

outdoors and he's spent so much of his life out there without any incident except for this one.

And while interviewing him, I could tell how much it still scares him all these years later and

confuses him. I'm going to let him tell the story for himself. This is episode 37. The title is

The Sam and River Creature and you're listening to Other World.

All right. I guess I'll just jump right in. So a little bit of background.

You know, I work as a lawyer. I'm in New York City now.

It's a big change for me. I grew up in Syracuse, New York, which is like four and a half hours

upstate. We joke that, you know, a lot of people like New York City people, you say upstate. They

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