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Conversations with People Who Hate Me

Episode 37: Salvation

Conversations with People Who Hate Me

Dylan Marron & TED

Society & Culture

4.71.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2022

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

A young trans man and his mother speak about her struggle to accept his gender identity.

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You can find Janna on TikTok and Instagram at @Jannatransmomma

Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Ted Audio Collective Did you ever really feel that you hated the

0:11.2

other? Me personally, I hated her. Yeah, I hated you for thinking that you were

0:19.3

someone else. Hey, and welcome to conversations with people who hate me. I am your host,

0:40.0

Dylan Marin back from an almost two-year hiatus, and I got to say I have

0:46.6

really missed you. So I'm glad to be back. If you're a longtime listener, I am so glad to have

0:53.7

you return, and if you're just tuning in for the very first time, I'm equally thrilled to have

0:59.4

you here. To explain the show's long absence from your feed, there was, as you know, a global pandemic,

1:08.5

but there was also something else. I wrote a book, a book that is actually also called

1:14.6

Conversations with People Who Hate Me, because it's all about this very podcast. In this book,

1:21.4

I retrace my steps through years of making this show, the hundreds of strangers have corresponded

1:27.9

with behind the scenes, the dozens of conversations that you've heard me host publicly, and I distilled

1:34.6

all of that down to 12 things that I've learned from this project. And while the book tells the story

1:41.6

of my process, the mistakes I've made along the way, and the unlikely connections I've made in

1:47.6

spite of them, it's really meant to be a roadmap for you on how to have difficult conversations

1:53.7

of your own. And it's not just with internet strangers, but family members, estranged friends,

2:00.5

similarly-minded folks who you just spar with for one reason or another, or anyone who sees the world

2:07.8

differently from you. I will tell you that Glennon Doyle, the best-selling author of Untamed,

2:14.5

and of whom I am a huge fan, said that this book helped her believe again in the potential goodness

2:22.2

of the internet. Please do not judge me for relaying a compliment about my own book. It was a very big

2:27.8

deal, and you know what, you totally can judge me. You can think whatever you want about me, I welcome it.

2:34.5

Last thing I'll say about the book is that conversations with people who hate me, the book,

2:39.2

comes out on March 29th, 2022, and I am so, so, so excited to finally share this with you,

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