They said that this is a way to essentially stop the far right.

But can you ultimately believe this is the case?

Because when you look at Vilder's performance,

his party went from getting zero seats in 2019

to potentially getting seven.

Absolutely, I mean the victory of Ghevildus yesterday was a very clear cut and it's a

precursor what is I think going to happen in the next couple of days when we see European

elections in various member states where the radical rights is supposed to win a

great victory and it depends of course what will happen at the end what will will

conclude on Sunday night when all the polls are being closed how big the

block of the far right will become in the European Parliament will be able to

beat social democr Democrats and the

Classic People's Party, the Christian Democrats, and become the biggest block in

the European Parliament? At the same time one has to also say that this is not a real block because they are

very much split over the issue of support to Ukraine and as one sees here for example Giet Wilders party was very

reluctant on the support for Ukraine but now that they are forming a coalition with other right-wing

parties here in the Netherlands you see them actually change their opinion and

be able to support Ukraine.

So just to clarify from a Dutch perspective though, before we go into the European Parliament itself,

from a Dutch perspective, according to these exit polls, who won the European vote in this country?

Well, it must be a great result by far.

I mean, not only did he make a great result in terms of going from one seat to seven,

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