Listen, it's a unanimous jury verdict, unanimous on all counts.

This is a definitive and, you know, this is an irreducible verdict.

He can appeal, I'm sure he will appeal, but this is everything that the prosecution

asked for. From a jury that by all accounts took this thing very, very seriously. We counted the deliberation hours down here.

The test here for us as a country is not about what happens on appeal and is not about what happens in sentencing.

The test for us now as a country is whether or not

this former president and his allies

will have succeeded in trying to undermine the rule of law so that people reject this as a legitimate

function of the rule of law in our country. They have tried to delegitimize this

judge, they have tried to delegitimize this court, they have tried to delegitimize these proceedings, they've even tried to delegitimize this court, they have tried to delegitimize these proceedings, they've even tried

to delegitimize the laws that he was charged under.

Those efforts are the tests that we now have as a country. The people involved in bringing this

case have been threatened and intimidated and had everything brought to bear on

against them in a way that was designed to delegitimize this process in the eyes of the American people.

It is now in the hands of the American people to decide if we will accept those efforts or whether

we will stand by the rule of law and recognize this as a fair proceeding.

Well, you disagree with the outcome obviously, but do you accept that he did have his day in

court and it was a jury of his peers that made this decision?

Well, no, not at all. Why not. No, I mean, look, I think, and this is nothing that we haven't said repeatedly, we were indicted

for conduct that happened in 2015, 16, 17 in a jurisdiction that it was

very hard for us to get a fair trial, Caitlin. I mean, I know the district attorney has said repeatedly,

said it today, this is a bread and butter case.

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