This is the Concealed Carry podcast, episode number 364.

And welcome to the Concealed Carry podcast, part of the Concealed Carry.com network.

I'm your host, Riley Bowman, and I'm joined today by Master Chief, Jacob Paulson.

Master Chief of all things glorious and wonderful at ConcealedCary.com.

And your audio is not turned on, bro.

He had his dogs.

No, I'm unmuted.

Sorry.

I'm trying to keep the dog barking out of the show.

Way to blow the intro of the podcast here, bro.

Well, I had a good comeback, too.

It's not even worth trying now.

So, today's episode, we are talking about reasons to get a CCW permit, even if you're in a state with constitutional carry.

It's a timely topic as today is the day that the new law in Oklahoma goes into effect, a constitutional carry law. And as is the case with

any time a state passes constitutional carry and the law goes into effect, it seems like I

see the flurry of activity, Jacob, where people are like, you know, you see all types. You'll see

people that are concerned legitimately, like, well, legitimately in their minds, right?

In that maybe they're not really gun people and they're like, oh, my goodness, we're going to have people carrying guns all over the place without permits, right?

You have instructors that feel it's really important to people get training and they're kind of

bothered by the idea of you know how can these people get permits and carry or maybe not necessarily

get permits because it's constitution to carry but how can these people be carrying guns and

not have training right and of course there's that whole thing of being an instructor,

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