Episode 363: The Night Of The Double Turn
Grilling JR
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🗓️ 20 March 2026
⏱️ 109 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of Grilling JR, Jim Ross and Conrad Thompson fire up the time machine and take you back to one of the most important nights in wrestling history WrestleMania XIII from March 23, 1997 at the Rosemont Horizon in Chicago, Illinois!
JR relives the iconic and industry changing double-turn between Bret "Hitman" Hart and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, breaking down why this moment redefined both men's careers and helped usher in a new era of professional wrestling. From Austin's gutsy, blood soaked performance to Bret's transformation into a bitter anti-hero, JR gives you a front-row seat to the magic as only he can.
The guys also dig into the ripple effects of Shawn Michaels "losing his smile", the arrival and impact of Chyna, and the introduction of Ken Shamrock as a special referee. Plus, JR shares his thoughts on Sid's WWF Championship win over Bret, the road to Undertaker vs. Sid in the main event, and how all of it fit into the rapidly changing landscape of the business including the growing influence of ECW.
Behind the scenes insight, unforgettable moments, and JR's signature storytelling make this a must-listen deep dive into a WrestleMania that changed everything.
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| 0:00.0 | Today's episode comes to you from the Blue Chew Studio. |
| 0:02.8 | Get 10% off your first month of Blue Chew Gold with the code JR at bluechew.com. |
| 0:28.1 | Hey, hey, it's Conrad Thompson, you're listening to grilling JR with the voice of wrestling, Mr. Jim Ross. Jim, how are you, man? |
| 0:29.5 | I'm good, Connie. |
| 0:30.3 | Hope you are too. |
| 0:31.7 | Man, better than I deserve. |
| 0:33.0 | Excited to be here with you today because it is WrestleMania season. |
| 0:36.8 | WrestleMania is just about a week away. |
| 0:39.3 | Of course, last week we talked about WrestleMania 12. |
| 0:41.5 | Today we're going to be talking about WrestleMania 13. |
| 0:45.0 | But before we get into it, we should talk about WrestleMania 18. |
| 0:49.4 | This past week, we put you and Mike Keota together and y'all revisited maybe one of the boys favorite |
| 0:55.5 | matches ever Hollywood Hogan versus the rock from WrestleMania 18 what a special moment it was |
| 1:02.6 | and you got to relive some of that last week with Mike Keota over at ad free shows.com how was it |
| 1:07.7 | just good we had a lot of fun uh Paul about well did hell of job, kind of being the point guard on that thing. |
| 1:14.6 | And it was brought back great memories and a unique memories, no doubt. |
| 1:19.6 | You know, was that, I said on the, on that, which I'd encourage people to go check out. |
| 1:24.6 | It's an hour long. |
| 1:25.6 | So, you know, what the hell? |
| 1:32.3 | The match had a, had a more, had a, I guess, |
| 1:34.4 | politely say deliberate pace. |
| 1:34.9 | Yeah. |
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