Episode 361: The Healing Revolution: Creating Safe and Transformative Group Environments with Liz Friedman
The Addicted Mind Podcast
Duane Osterlind, LMFT
4.7 • 655 Ratings
🗓️ 24 November 2025
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, host Duane Osterlind speaks with Liz Friedman, CEO and Co-founder of GPS Group Peer Support, about the vital role of peer support and group modalities in addressing the widespread mental health crisis. Liz shares her personal journey into the work, stemming from a severe mental health crisis after childbirth, which revealed significant gaps in the healthcare system. The conversation delves into the definition, profound impact, and structured model of peer support, emphasizing its effectiveness in fostering connection, resilience, and lasting change.
Key Discussion Points
- Defining Peer Support: Peer support is fundamentally about landing in your own lived experience and offering it as a tool and gift to others. It is about saying, "I've survived some really hard things. I believe you can too. Let's take the next step together," to break through isolation, stigma, and shame.
- Lived Experience as a Modality: Liz's personal motivation comes from her own struggles and the realization that connection is the key factor in healing. This understanding is deeply rooted in the recovery field.
- Peer Support vs. Professional Therapy: While professional therapy is crucial, peer support offers a unique, complementary therapeutic modality where participants share their lived experience to inspire and resource one another. Peer support minimizes the hierarchy and clinical barriers often present in traditional settings, enhancing rapport.
- The Need for Structure and Training: Despite the organic nature of groups, there is a limited evidence base and a lack of training for running effective peer support groups—even among clinical professionals. Liz's organization, GPS Group Peer Support, focuses on training facilitators to create a structured, trauma-informed, and trauma-responsive container that allows for genuine authenticity and courageous sharing.
- The GPS Group Peer Support Model: The model integrates evidence-based modalities (like CBT, Motivational Interviewing, Mindfulness) seamlessly into a very set, stepped structure. Key elements include:
- Ritual Beginning: Starting with a mindfulness moment for grounding and landing.
- Heightened Confidentiality: Confidentiality is framed relationally to promote transformation, where the very act of saying something can change it, and prevent "locking" a person into their past truth.
- No Interruption/Advice: A completely device-free zone that eliminates crosstalk, advice-giving, and conflict. This trusts the participant's ability to find their own path and fosters self-trust.
- Realities and Principles: An honest preamble that names the challenges (realities) specific to the population while affirming principles of hope, dignity, and recovery for everyone.
- Equal Protected Time: Every person receives the same amount of protected time to share, ensuring the group is never dominated by a single voice and allowing the collective story to emerge.
- Addressing the Mental Health Crisis: The shift to group therapeutic care and support groups is critical for the future of mental healthcare. By utilizing a group model, costs can be reduced, access can be dramatically expanded (serving millions more people), and care can be de-stigmatized and normalized.
💡 Listener Takeaway
Liz Friedman encourages anyone struggling and considering joining a group with this powerful message:
"Sharing your story with other people is the most courageous act that you can do. It's revolutionary, it's transformative, and it's healing. And I urge you today, today, right now, to go find someone you can share your precious story to and with, because that will help you with your connection with your path. It will make everything else possible. You're not alone."
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to The Addicted Mind. I'm Dwayne Austerlund, and I'm your host. |
| 0:09.1 | Many of us lead groups, but haven't had the opportunity to be on the other side of it where our |
| 0:15.0 | heart is pounding and we're not sure what we're going to say when it's our time. |
| 0:19.2 | And right, we're sweating a little bit right |
| 0:21.7 | we're nervous and so we really start there because we want everybody to experience it from that side of |
| 0:27.5 | things and then we break it down step by step you know the difference between a group running well |
| 0:35.4 | and a group not running well is not the people in the group. |
| 0:39.3 | You could have the same exact people in the group. |
| 0:45.8 | Today we have an incredible guest joining us, Liz Friedman, the CEO and co-founder of GPS group peer support, GPS is a national organization that's revolutionizing addiction recovery and mental health through a scalable, structured peer support model. |
| 1:04.9 | Lizzie's work is all about empowering facilitators with lived experience to create measurable impact, bridging the gap |
| 1:12.5 | between clinical care and real world community needs. |
| 1:16.4 | She's a nationally recognized advocate and changemaker champion legislative efforts to make |
| 1:22.8 | group therapeutic care a reimbursable standard, eliminate behavioral health care wait lists, and promote |
| 1:29.9 | peer-led support as a cost-effective solution to the mental health crisis. And in this episode, |
| 1:35.5 | we'll dive into the transformative power of peer support, what it is, why it works, and how it can |
| 1:42.9 | make a real-world difference for anyone struggling. |
| 1:46.4 | Liz's insights are inspiring, hopeful, and a reminder of the humanity we all bring to the recovery |
| 1:53.9 | process. And I think you'll find this conversation as impactful and uplifting as I did. |
| 2:00.2 | And if you're enjoying The Addicted Mind podcast, don't forget to rate and review us on your favorite podcast app. |
| 2:06.8 | It really helps us reach more people. And of course, hit the subscribe button so you never miss an episode. |
| 2:14.2 | All right. Let's dive in. |
| 2:20.3 | All right, let's dive in. All right, everyone, welcome to The Addicted Mind. I have Liz Friedman with me today. |
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