Hey there, welcome to The Fizzle Show. I'm your host, Corbett Barr, and this is our show about

earning a living independently doing something you love. Today we're joined by Nathan Barry.

Nathan is a creator, author, speaker, designer, and the founder of ConvertKit. Nathan got his

start as a software designer and self-published author before founding ConvertKit in 2013.

Since then, the business behind Convert Kit has grown to an incredible $20 million annual run rate.

Nathan, thank you so much for being on the show today. You're an old friend of Fizzle, and I'm really excited to have you here.

Yeah, I'm glad to be here

we were just talking uh I think we met as you were saying maybe in 2012 or so yeah I went to

at the very first world domination summit no second world domination summit my first one uh you hosted a think

traffic meetup ah I went to that and met you and Caleb and James Clear and

a bunch of people. A bunch of people who you're you're really close to now. I know we share a lot

of friends in common, but those early days of WDS really led to a lot of close connections.

Yeah, for sure. You also, I remember you being at my house when we, I think we were launching Fizzle,

and we had you and Leo Babauta and Scott Dinsmore.

Yeah.

And maybe Barron Quadro as well.

Yeah, and we just did some like long-ass, like four-hour-long live stream where we were just

having people in at different times talking about stuff and kind of celebrating the launch. That was fun.

That was great. Yeah, and I remember sitting in your living room because you guys would be live in one room

and then we come in and out as different guests and yeah it was like the green room or something

oh and we had a great time i think that's the first time that i met leo as well nice that was probably more

fun in the green room than we were having in the other room well you know you got both sides of it

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