investors have more money than time and individual contributors in a business have more time

than money and entrepreneurs are kind of like the go between between those two worlds,

these translators between these two worlds. And one of the reasons why we raise venture capital

is so that when we wanted to go fast, we could.

Hey, podcast listener. Even if you are alone in your entrepreneurial journey, know that today,

right now in your earbuds, you are joined by thousands of entrepreneurs from all around

the globe seeking to grow better, more profitable, location independent businesses.

If you'd like to learn more about what we do and download our entire back catalog,

check out tropical MBA.com.

If you tune in the show regularly, and thank you to those who do, you know that just a few weeks ago,

we had the lovely Simon Payne on the show talking about his decision to leave lead pages,

which is the number one landing page generation software on the web.

So Simon comes on to the show, shares his story, talks about how he's going to go

start, Convert Player, which is a piece of software that allows you to collect email addresses

while you're playing your YouTube videos to your audience. So a few days after this interview goes live,

I'm poking around on my computer and I get this message on Twitter from someone totally unexpected.

My name is Clay Collins. I'm the co-founder of Lead Pages, along with Tracy and Simon.

And that's what I do. So Clay writes me and says, hey, I'd love to come on the show.

And my first thought was, sure thing. What follows today is that conversation.

I know many of you have been following Clay's work online as I have for many, many years.

But for those of you that haven't, just a quick refresher course. So I've been aware of Clay

since the very beginning when he started out as a blogger and marketing trainer.

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