Hello and welcome to another episode of Mindfulness Plus.

I'm your host, Thomas McConkey.

Thank you for downloading us today.

You are in for a particular treat today.

If you're not familiar with the man, the teacher, the practitioner, the pioneer, Shenzhen

Young, this is really going to be an experience for you.

I am so happy to introduce Shenzhen of all of the people, the teachers I've met along the path.

Shinzen, your work has influenced me in such

profound ways. We have some space here to hear from you and your very unique take on and formulation

of the Dharma. But if I could just make an introduction, Shenzhen.

Shenzhen is very unique in that he not only has a deep mastery of the practice side.

He's been practicing in different Buddhist traditions and styles for over 50 years now,

but has just a staggering grasp of the academic

side of Buddhism. So you might hear words from multiple languages in this episode. You might hear

some jargony mathematical speak here. You're really in for a ride on this one. And Shinsen, I just

want to extend a warm welcome to you. Thank you really in for a ride on this one. And Shenzhen, I just want to extend a warm

welcome to you. Thank you so much for sharing your time with us on Mindfulness Plus.

Sure. My pleasure. Excellent. Well, Shenzhen, where do we begin? Do you have anything for us right out of the

gate? I've got lots of stuff. Well, I guess my main message to the world is that there's something that I call modern mindfulness.

I define modern mindfulness as contemplative practice co-evolving with science.

So to me, that is a huge concept, potentially a, not just a game changer, but a meta-game

changer changes how the game is changer, but a meta-game changer. A game changer changes how the game is played,

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