Episode 356: Christy Giles Cilliers & Hilda Cabrales-Arzola

The First Degree

Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek

True Crime, Society & Culture, News

4.5 • 10K Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

On November 13th of 2021, two young women, aged 26 and 24, head out for a night on the town that finishes up near Beverly Hills, California. They dance the night away at a warehouse party into the wee hours. But come daybreak, the friends - one a successful model, the other an aspiring architect - haven’t made it home. By the end of the day, the women are located separately but in highly disturbing circumstances, each abandoned outside LA hospitals by unknown individuals, suffering the effects of a suspected drug overdose. In the aftermath of the young women’s tragic passing, questions turn to who they were with the night before. When the truth emerges, it’s everyone’s worst nightmare. In episode 356, Jac and Alexis speak with former L.A. prosecutor Joshua Ritter, and detail the shocking murders committed at the hands of David Pearce, and the fact he could possibly have been stopped if only women felt they would be believed in reporting violent crimes against them.

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0:00.0	The first degree.
0:02.0	First degree.
0:03.0	First degree.
0:04.0	First degree.
0:05.0	First degree.
0:06.0	First degree.
0:07.0	The first degree.
0:09.0	You see it on the news.
0:10.0	You see it on the paper.
0:11.0	You see it on Facebook.
0:13.0	These things are supposed to happen in movies, not in real life.
0:16.0	It was one of those stories that really caught fire because it's a nightmare.
0:25.7	They were out for a night of fun, and it's that situation that we constantly warn ourselves
0:33.3	about, try to protect ourselves from, and that nightmare came true for them. And then the news broke.
0:38.9	And we were hearing about these two girls and this whole kind of mystery. And at that point,
0:45.0	no one knew who was involved. So evil really is just a callous, selfish concern for his own
0:52.0	self-preservation when he's got two beautiful young girls who did nothing
0:55.6	wrong and nothing to deserve it dying in his in his apartment welcome to the first degree the true
1:03.4	crime podcast that you might end up on my name is jack fanick i'm sitting here with alexus link letter
1:08.1	happy hump day people hope you're getting through people. Hope you're getting through the week.
1:15.8	Hope you're getting through the week, indeed. Yeah, sometimes they really, it's a slog.
1:24.7	And then there's another week next week. Then they never stop. I'm like, I actually need a vacation.
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