Hey, so I'm from San Francisco and I have a story related to some of the topics that you guys cover.

My dad is a product designer and he has, you know, he's gotten relatively successful and he was active professionally in the early 2000s and at some point he was telling me the story about how he had this

rich client book a like I don't know if it was I think it was a first

class flight for him immediately to meet with him in New York and that is how he met

Jis Lane Maxwell and he said that over the course of their

conversation she was basically trying to pitch the fact that computer, computers, which were of course, skyrocketing popularity that computer mice

lacked sex appeal and that they, uh, that she had an idea for how to better market computer mice to men. And she said that what's missing from computers is the

sex appeal so her suggestion was making a amount a computer mask that was shaped like a breast, a human breast and that you would press the nipple or move the nipple around in order to control the cursor and click with it.

He said he had no idea who she was and what he was doing there, but found out

later exactly who she was.

All right, thanks so much.

Bye-bye.

Love the show.

Wow.

Wow.

First of all, I can see the vision. Jeffrey Exton. Jeff Rexton.

Jeff Weston.

Jeff Weston. So he was

Jeff Jeff Reel.

Jeff Reelre Exton.

Come on, Come in.

Joffre Euston.

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