tonight and proposed different paths for the speaker that would have avoided the

abject surrender represented by his strategic choice here. There's no other way to

describe it. It's surrender, it's disappointing, I won't support it. It's disappointing. I won't support it.

It's disappointing.

It's completely detached from what our base wants,

what our motors want.

The strategy is not to try.

I think the strategy is to fall on his sword.

So when I asked Congressman Chip Roy about whether or not it was time for him to oust Mike Johnson from the

speaker.

He said that, he said he went right up to the line, Dana, and didn't go cross that line, perhaps

because he needs to talk with the speaker which is happening right now.

Now the question is will the numbers add up to oust him from the

speakership because Democrats as you mentioned could step in to save him

because of what he's doing here on Ukraine. So this is a different

situation than the fall when Maro McCarthy was ousted from the speakership but no

doubt about it. Mike Johnson opening up a revolt on the far right with this conference with this move here.

Yeah, yeah, I mean we just saw it just right there what you played for us.

Manu, thanks so much.

Always great to have you on.

Okay, we'll watch that.

We see Senator Schumer at the podium right now,

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