Welcome to the Mama Bear Apologetics Podcast.

A podcast where we teach you to roar like a mother.

And by roar we mean recognize the message, offer discernment, argue for a healthier approach,

and reinforce these ideas with your kids.

Unless you want to growl around your house. I mean that's cool too.

They like, check it, we keep it real.

That's so bad. You're awesome.

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It's time to rise up, ladies.

Rise up, Mama Bears. This might not affect your faith, but it might affect your children's.

Welcome to another episode of Mama Bear apologetics. I'm Hillary and I'm Amy. And so today

we're going to be continuing on with our previous podcast where we were

talking about all the stuff that was going on. We briefly talked about the

Joshua Harris thing but then went on to the

hill song guy and this kind of, I don't know if you want to just refer to him as the

great apostasy, but just as falling away that we're seeing in in

leadership and the different we kind of talked about some of the differences

between the Joshua Harris and the Hill song guy issue and and they're they're

walking away how there were some differences there.

So today we're going to be talking about specifically the difference between four different,

I don't know if I want to call them rolls.

One of them is definitely a roll, the other ones are identities,

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