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If you had to take the temperature of how effective he was based on me, he would have woke up every day and thought he was a royal screw-up and failure. I didn't even thank Rodney until I was 25. Hey, it's Jamie Cabe.

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the forgotteninitiative.org slash S3E10. That's for season three, episode 10. Today, you are in

for a treat. This is part two of my conversation with Josh Schip. If you missed part one, I really encourage you to head

over to the forgotteninitiative.org slash S3E9 to listen to that part first. Josh Shipp is an author,

a global youth empowerment expert, and an acclaimed speaker. He was a former at-risk foster kid, and now he's a

youth advocate and is renowned for his documentary TV series that followed his groundbreaking work with

teens. He is also the author of a brand new book, The Grown Up's Guide to Teenage Humans,

which releases September 19th. You are going to want to get this book, The Grown Up's Guide to Teenage Humans, which releases September 19th. You are going to want to

get this book, I guarantee it. Let's go right now to part two of my conversation with Josh Schip.

I use my words for living. I mean, I write books and I give talks. I don't know a way to articulate to someone the value of counseling. It's just like, you just need to get in there and give it a try and not get scared the first couple sessions because it's a game changer. And we've all had these experiences.

You know, you go to some camps, some conference, some thing.

You see some movie. You come back. You try to explain it. And you're just like, well, it was amazing. You had to be there. The person's like, okay, right. Yeah, sure. Stop showing me your vacation photos. So, you know, I feel like this is just something that as a parent, a teacher, a caring

adult, like, you know, bribe, influence, like use your influence and your leverage in

whatever way you can, knowing that it will ultimately be a great thing for them.

Love it. Well, this is a good segue into this book you just wrote that I am excited to talk

about and to read. I looked online yesterday, as we're interviewing today, as we're interviewing

today at September 1st, but looked online and it's pre-ordered. So it's not quite out yet,

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