Coming back to the idea that I want to create like next crazy big thing like Facebook or Twitter,

the scary thing is when you have some crazy goal, you should be careful because it might become true.

So I feel like I accomplished that and then realized, you know, oh, it's too big for me.

I want to kind of go back and do something smaller.

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Ian, there's a version of the entrepreneurial journey that I think a lot of us fantasize about,

particularly when we're broke, you know, tinkering around in front of our laptops,

in an apartment where we struggle to pay the rent.

We imagine that we are going to put our idea on the internet,

and someday that idea will be worth millions of dollars.

What a dream. That's what today's guest has done. And so we're going to get into the story.

This is someone that we know very well. His name is Simon Payne and he is the co-founder of lead pages.

Now, if you don't know what lead pages is, it is the preeminent software, I think that's fair to say, in landing pages.

So when you go to a website and there's a pretty looking opt-in box there asking for your email address, there's a very good chance that that was generated with lead pages.

I recently got the chance to spend some time with Simon in the beautiful Czech Republic.

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