Just you know, I'm not just a photographer. I'm like I

Shoot photos so I can hunt more like that's really why I do it and I think

People really like that because they know I'm there to like be part of the hunt you're into it, too

Yeah, I didn't really realize that there was a threat

To our public lands really until like the fall leading up to when I bought the bus

What are the results now that you you're on around in this public land bus?

So it's been it's been pretty amazing. I mean the the sportsman's community as a whole

It got really fired up about the public lands issue anyway, you know outdoor life pushed out four videos that I produced for them

And I think that really got the traction rolling about the bus

So I think 2018 will be a big year as far as getting people, you know

Kind of more of a call to action like people, you know talking to people and what they can do to help yeah

It's a long rig when you add a utility trailer

I don't know what I'm rocking them like 50 feet 51 feet total length

It's terrifying

That was moving to Kodiak to film Coast Guard Alaska and was no longer gonna be a sales rep

So it just you know it just so what's the spanner years here from the time you took the Midwest white tail

Deal so 2011 was Midwest white tail 2012. I was in four Collins

or

Yeah 2012 end of 2012 beginning of 2013. I was in Bozeman

Summer of 2013. I moved to Kodiak. Yeah, okay. Yeah

Pretty short. Yeah, pretty short window really um and then after the Kodiak gig

Yeah, the last uh the last thing I filmed on Kodiak was um a show for the history channel

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