Episode 341: The Angry Woman's Guide To Embodying Change With Arianne MacBean
The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast
Kate Anthony
4.4 • 573 Ratings
🗓️ 23 October 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
Arianne MacBean writes, "Your anger is the spark of your inner fire." As outlined in her upcoming book, Tough Shit: The Angry Woman's Guide to Embodying Change, that spark is something every woman deserves to honor. This week she joins me for a conversation that's all about reclaiming that fire and learning how to channel it into transformation.
Arianne is a licensed marriage and family therapist in Los Angeles with a certificate in somatic psychotherapies and practices. We talk about the power of anger as a tool for self-knowledge, how the patriarchy taught us to suppress it, and why embracing it is one of the most radical acts of self-compassion a woman can take.
Arianne also shares how her background as a dancer and choreographer shaped her somatic therapy work and how tuning into the body allows us to uncover what's really beneath our anger: fear, sadness, hurt, and ultimately, truth.
This conversation is such a beautiful reminder that anger isn't something to fix, it's something to feel, follow, and transform.
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What you'll hear about in this episode:
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Why anger is powerful information, not something to suppress (3:32)
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How somatic therapy connects movement, body awareness, and emotional healing (5:36)
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Ways to use anger as armor and as a guide toward deeper healing (13:20)
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The surprising history behind the phrase "tough shit" and Arianne's reclamation of it (19:30)
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That there are men actually doing the inner work on themselves, facing hard truths, and learning to show up differently in relationships (34:35)
Learn more about Arianne MacBean: Arianne MacBean is a Somatic Psychotherapist, writer, and educator. She taught dance at the middle, high school, and college levels for over twenty years and was the Artistic Director of The Big Show Co., an LA-based dance-theater group. She holds a BA in Dance from UCLA, a Double MFA in Dance & Writing from California Institute of the Arts, and an MA in Counseling Psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute. She works with individuals and couples to heal from trauma, learn healthy communication skills, and trust the body's wealth of wisdom.
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| 0:00.0 | When we feel something in our body, we're told to shut it down and push through. |
| 0:05.1 | But in this case, I'm asking you, when you feel that heat, when you feel that explosion, |
| 0:12.1 | when you feel that rallying cry, just grab hold of it, embrace it, bring it in, and go, |
| 0:18.1 | let's follow this. |
| 0:19.2 | Let's follow this down to the core. And then we can |
| 0:22.5 | use it for positive change not only in our own lives, but maybe even in our world. |
| 0:32.1 | Welcome to the Divorce Survival Guide podcast, where we have open and honest conversations about co-parenting, |
| 0:39.7 | separation, divorce, and the hardest question of all, should you stay or should you go. |
| 0:46.0 | I'm Kate Anthony, your divorce survival guide, and I'm here to help you navigate some of the |
| 0:51.8 | roughest waters you've ever swum in and answer some of your |
| 0:55.2 | toughest questions. I've been to hell and back. And now it's my mission in life to help you |
| 1:01.5 | get to the other side of this process with your sanity and your heart intact. |
| 1:11.9 | Hey everyone, welcome back. |
| 1:14.8 | I am excited today to bring you a friend of mine. |
| 1:19.9 | Some of you may have seen on the gram my dancing videos from my dance class that I used to do in person on Fridays |
| 1:31.7 | until I moved. |
| 1:33.4 | And my friend Ariane is in that dance class with me. |
| 1:37.4 | That's how we have connected. |
| 1:39.1 | And we like to shake it, shake it. |
| 1:41.6 | So she's a licensed marriage and family therapist in L.A. |
| 1:46.9 | And she has a certificate in somatic psychotherapies and practices, which you know I am all about. |
| 1:53.8 | And she has a book coming out. |
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