Hey everyone, welcome back to the Antigram Journey. Today Susanne's guest is

Brian Irwin and Antigram III. One of the questions that really stood out for me

was when she asked, how do we measure the value of what we're doing if we're

not going to use a cultural measure. If you are interested in hearing Suzanne

speak live, she'll be teaching in Kansas City later in the month and in September

she will be teaching both in Los Angeles and Richmond, Virginia. You can find

all of her upcoming schedule at SusanneSdevield.com and if you're in the

Dallas-Fore Worth area there's a new path between a small group starting up

September 18th. You can get more information and register for that at life in

the Trinity ministry.com. We sure hope you enjoy the show. Hey I'm here with

Brian Irwin. Let me tell you how I first encountered him. Some guy walked into

my Sunday school class one Sunday morning with a guest preacher who was there

for the day because Joe was out of town and I thought he was with a guest

preacher so I introduced myself to them and I said so you guys go to St.

Church or and you didn't know him like y'all had met at that moment just that

moment and I knew right then that we were going to be friends right that minute so

how about you to do that oh man. No I knew before that or I wouldn't have

showed up in your class. Oh yeah yeah because I think listening to your teaching

before that just had an intuition about kind of who I thought you might be

and then when that bore itself out in about 30 seconds that day. I was like yeah

okay this is it. Let's talk about what in the anyogram made you want to know more

enough that you would just walk into a Sunday school class. Take a seat. Wow.

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