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Rich, how are you? Not too bad. I would usually say, since as we're recording here,

about two hours away from the start of the NCAA tournament, that I'm on pins and needles and can't

wait, but I always enjoyed the upsets,

and I think they might, on the scale that we saw them in the past, might, might be a thing

of bygone days.

Well, yeah, I mean, the way, it's yet another dynamic that's been changed by paying the athletes.

So now they have even more incentive to gravitate to the big schools.

And as a result, you know, the golf between the halvesves and have-nots is greater.

But I do think, Rich, that in basketball, there's a lot more chance still of upsets than

football.

Yeah, more of a, to mix sports metaphors or cliché, is more of any given Sunday dynamic in basketball than in football.

Yeah, I mean, I guess I'll never forget.

I think it was 1979.

I think that was the year that Indiana State was undefeated until the last game when they lost.

They lost, Larry Bird's team lost to Magic Johnson and Greg Kessler's Michigan State team.

But the thing was Larry, you know, Indiana State was never really, I mean, Indiana is the powerhouse in Indiana, right?

But Indiana State was never a great team, except for that one year that Larry Bird was there.

And they were really never a great team again.

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