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Episode 334 Promo - Zionism Explained (w/ Shaul Magid)

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4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 January 2024

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Distinguished scholar on Jewish Studies at Dartmouth University Shaul Magid joins Bad Faith to discuss the history of Zionism, conflicts within the Jewish community among Jews of different diasporic and racial backgrounds, the relationship between Blacks and Jews, and the role radical politics has always played in influencing the terms of that relationship. For the second hour, Brie and Professor Magid have a constructive debate about whether the left has sufficiently condemned Hamas’s actions on 10/7, and whether a failure to do so adequately is alienating potential Jewish allies.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.
Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands)

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0:00.0

We'll see what happens when college students come back from the semester break in late January

0:04.8

where things are going to be. Whether there's going to be a transformation, whether they're going to be,

0:09.0

you know, pro-Palestinian solidarity protests with Jews who are all calling for an end to the war, right?

0:17.2

In a certain sense, it's basically an anti-war movement has to start.

0:20.4

And you know, you know, funnily enough, you're beginning to see the seeds of an anti-war movement in Israel itself.

0:28.0

Israelis are now starting to protest in Tel Aviv. It first started with freeing the hostages and

0:34.9

then against the government who have been basically giving up on the hostages, but now

0:39.5

it's slowly transforming into a ceasefire movement.

0:43.2

I do think that the Israel killing those three hostages

0:46.2

as they were naked, as they were topless and waiving a white flag

0:50.1

was a real wake-up call.

0:53.2

Yeah.

0:54.2

And I obviously saw the young man who's being a conscientious objector

0:58.4

and going to jail for 30 days instead of going to fight

1:01.5

for mandatory conscription.

1:03.2

I think it's very, very small.

1:04.6

My understanding that the protest had like 25 people at it

1:07.6

and they got bullied and harassed,

1:10.0

but that's bigger than it ever has been

1:11.9

and given the enormity of approval in Israel for what the country is doing.

1:17.1

It's an incredibly brave act for those people who do stand up.

1:19.5

I saw a video also of a professor, an Israeli professor who was getting shoved around by his students because he had done a Facebook post about humanitarian aid to Gaza.

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