Welcome to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

My guests on today's podcast are a married couple, active LDS, husband's a seminary teacher

at our local high school, Reed, and Amber Blackburn.

Welcome to the podcast. Thank you, Richard.

Thank you. Just by way of background, we are going to talk about Reed and Amber losing their

second child who was stillborn. Her name is Tessa. Her birthday is May 18th, 2018, so that's over two years ago. And we're going to talk

about just what that's like. That's the road I don't know anything about. And the purpose of

doing this is just for them to share their insights to other couples that have lost a child,

or those of us that are trying

to say the right thing and do the right thing for a couple that we love, perhaps a family

member who's lost a child. I became aware of Reed when our youngest son Ben was at Cotwood

High School. And Ben came home and talked about Brother Blackburn.

He said, Dad, we talked about blacks in the priesthood. And Brother Blackburn taught us how to navigate

that as faithful Latter-day Saints. And Dad, Brother Blackburn showed us the Mormon and Gay website

and talked a little bit about gay Latter-day Saints.

And he was just glad to talk about some of these issues that we don't talk about too much.

So I have never gone to back-to-school night and met with a seminary teacher,

but I said to myself, I have to find Brother Blackburn and thank him.

So I went to Back to School night at Cottonwood, made my way over the seminary, and walked into Brother Blackburn and thank him. So I went to back to school night at Cottonwood, made my way over the seminary and walked into Brother Blackburn's office and just thanked him for being a wonderful

seminary teacher and talking about these more complicated subjects in a faithful way. I wanted our

children to know about these topics, especially in high school before they

served missions.

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