Episode 332: Divorce, Menopause, and Medical Gaslighting with Kathy Gould

The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast

Kate Anthony

Relationships, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.4 • 573 Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Why are women's health concerns still being dismissed and what can we do about it?

The healthcare system was not built for women. For many of us, especially in midlife, our health concerns are dismissed, misunderstood, or flat-out ignored. And when you're navigating the storm of divorce at the same time as perimenopause or menopause? It can feel like you're unraveling.

I'm joined by Phoenix Rising member Kathy Gould, a holistic health coach, personal trainer, life coach, lactation consultant, and current grad student finishing her second Master's in Marriage and Family Therapy. (I'm telling you, the women in Phoenix Rising are BADASS!)

This episode started as a guest expert session inside Phoenix Rising (my divorce empowerment collective for women). The conversation was so powerful, I knew I had to bring it to the podcast.

Kathy and I get into why the medical system has failed women, how we've been gaslit about our own bodies, and what it looks like to take our power back especially during times of massive upheaval like divorce. We are not meant to go through this quietly, and we are certainly not meant to go through it alone.

What you'll hear about in this episode:

Why women's health is dismissed, especially in midlife (6:11)
The deep need for more open, supportive conversations around our wellness (12:14)
The long-standing misconceptions about hormone replacement therapy (HRT) (16:41)
What Kathy recommends for women going through both divorce and menopause at the same time (35:15)
How to advocate for yourself when doctors aren't listening (especially if they're covered by insurance) (41:59)

Learn more about Kathy Gould: Kathy is an integrative holistic health coach, life coach and personal trainer. She is also a certified lactation consultant. She holds a Masters Degree in Health Psychology and is currently finishing a second Masters Degree in Marriage and Family Therapy. Kathy is passionate about women's health and wellness and has dedicated her career to women's physical and emotional wellness.

Resources & Links:
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
The Divorce Survival Guide Resource Bundle
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective

Kathy's website
Kathy on Instagram

NY Times Article: Women Have Been Misled About Menopause

Menopause Barbie on YouTube: Dr. Barbara Taylor

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https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-332-divorce-menopause-and-medical-gaslighting-with-kathy-gould/

Transcript

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0:00.0	I want you to find community. I want you to find support. It's so important. You cannot go through
0:06.0	these things alone. And you may feel like you want to isolate yourself because you're sad and
0:10.9	you're depressed and you don't want to get dressed. And that's all fine. Still find community.
0:16.6	Reach out to people. We all have somebody. If we don't have somebody, there are groups like
0:20.9	Phoenix Rising. There are places to find community. I feel like I found such a community with
0:26.2	these women who I've never met in person, by the way. Welcome to the Divorce Survival Guide
0:34.6	podcast, where we have open and honest conversations about co-parenting,
0:39.7	separation, divorce, and the hardest question of all, should you stay or should you go.
0:46.0	I'm Kate Anthony, your divorce survival guide, and I'm here to help you navigate some of the
0:51.8	roughest waters you've ever swum in and answer some of your
0:55.2	toughest questions. I've been to hell and back. And now it's my mission in life to help you
1:01.5	get to the other side of this process with your sanity and your heart intact.
1:20.5	Hey everyone, welcome back. Today I'm joined by a member of Phoenix Rising, a very longtime member of Phoenix Rising, Kathy Gold. She is a holistic health coach, a personal trainer, a life coach,
1:30.0	lactation consultant, and a current grad student finishing her second master's in marriage and
1:36.4	family therapy. When I tell you that the women in Phoenix Rising are badasses, I fucking mean it.
1:48.0	Kathy is coming on today. I had her come in as a guest expert inside of Phoenix Rising, which I do. I have a guest expert come in every month.
1:53.7	And she came in to talk about the convergence of menopause, divorce, medical gaslighting, and all of that. And the conversation was so
2:04.9	good and so powerful that I knew I had to bring it to you guys, to the wider audience. So in this
2:12.6	episode, we're going to talk about why the medical system has failed women for so long, how we are constantly
2:19.1	gaslit about our own bodies, how the medical community, most doctors have almost no
2:24.6	training in menopause.
2:26.1	Like, it's almost as if once we stop being able to make babies, they stop giving a shit
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