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In December 2020, a Latino couple was falsely accused by a white mom-felancer of attempting to kidnap her children. The Karen phenomenon where white women falsely accuse people of color of crimes, usually fixates on the accuser, the so-called Karen.

But for this series, we focus on the innocent couple at the heart of this story.

I just want the public to know what she did was wrong.

In Perfect Paradise People versus Karen, available now wherever you get your podcasts.

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