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Subscribe now. Hello everyone and welcome to episode 332 of the Talking Chow podcast.

I am your host, Brad Roland, and is is Sunday, December the 12th in the evening,

and I am joined as often by Eric Cole.

Hello, sir. How are you?

I am doing well.

I have been thinking about you with Michigan's run in college football, I must say,

especially with nothing to think about baseball-wise.

So, you know, it's been kind of nice seeing your tortured soul having to experience,

joy.

Yeah, it was a good month in November, that's for sure, between baseball and college football.

And I did receive a tweet the other day, number one, they asked when the next talking

shot podcast was in which I said Sunday. And then I said, and then they asked when the next talking shop podcast was in which i said sunday and then i

and then i said uh and then they asked me um if we were playing to do a uh a michigan georgia

preview episode on the show because there's nothing else to talk about and i was like listen

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