We're back.

Hello, everyone.

I'm Liz.

My name is Brace, and we are, of course, joined by producer Young Jomsky, and welcome to...

To Trinon.

Hello.

Hello.

Interesting delay on that one.

Why?

I like a dramatic pause, comedic effect. You do give it a little dramatic pause. It's important.

Will she say it? Won't she say it? You got to have rhythm, baby. Welcome to part two of our

interview with William T. Volman. Yes, you made it this far. And if you didn't make it this far,

and you're like, what do you mean part two? Guess what? There's a part one, dummy. Go back. Yeah, I cannot stress this enough. You should listen to part one before you listen to this. Yes. I, there is just, I've got nothing more to say on the subject. Listen to part one and read the essay that we link there, which we'll also link here. But listen to part one first. It's a, it's a, the conversation, listen, we're just not, it's, it would be a three and a half hour episode otherwise. So we're releasing it in two parts. It makes sense. We were on soft cushiony chairs for many hours, drinking two types of whiskey.

Talking with William T.

Volman, you've got to listen to Part 1.

You're not going to understand part 2.

By the point in the interview that we start from here, Liz is thoroughly wasted.

No, I'm not thoroughly wasted.

I think I'd only had the first type of whiskey at this point.

I was not doing that. She was doing what? I'm not even doing anything. You just tried to do, you were just doing the like wavy wiggle. I'm doing the, because I'm, I have whatever disease makes you do that, which you're now making me reveal to everything. No, I don't. You know, Jomsky is saying I don't. I don't know which disease I can do that.

That's a really bad one.

Okay, I'm sorry for whatever one. What are the COVID people? Or no, it was vaccine people. Vaccine, yeah, vaccine. It was a vaccine. I'm trying to think of who was faking what. And I can't remember. The vaccine, they're all like shaking in the bed.

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