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Raising Boys & Girls

Episode 330: Understanding the Challenger and Enneagram 8's with David and Sissy

Raising Boys & Girls

That Sounds Fun Network

Religion & Spirituality, Kids & Family, Christianity, Parenting

4.91.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Sissy and David explore the bold, protective world of Enneagram 8s, celebrating their fierce loyalty, honesty, and justice‑driven strength while also naming common struggles like intensity, difficulty showing vulnerability, and quick reactions. They offer practical guidance for eight parents and caregivers—soften tone, stay calm, practice vulnerability and repair—and ideas to help eight kids use their power for good, feel respected, and grow into balanced leaders. Resources mentioned: The Enneagram Made Easy by Elizabeth Wagele and Renee Baron – used as a simple tool to help kids identify their number. The Road Back to You by Suzanne Stabile Love And Logic Series – multiple books for different ages, educators, and grandparents; recommended especially for parents raising potential eights because of its focus on getting out of power struggles. . . . . . .  Sign up to receive the⁠ bi-⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠monthly newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to keep up to date with where David and Sissy are speaking, where they are taco'ing, PLUS conversation starters for you and your family to share! Access Raising Boys and Girls courses here! Connect with David, Sissy, and Melissa at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠raisingboysandgirls.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Owen Learns He Has What it Takes: A Lesson in Resilience⁠ ⁠Lucy Learns to Be Brave: A Lesson in Courage⁠⁠ . . . . . .  If you would like to partner with Raising Boys and Girls as a podcast sponsor, fill out our⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Advertise With Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ form. A special thank you to our sponsors: QUINCE: Go to ⁠Quince.com/rbg⁠ for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. THRIVE MARKET: Head over to ⁠ThriveMarket.com/rbg⁠ to get 30% off your first order and a FREE $60 gift.  NIV APPLICATION BIBLE: Save an additional 10% on any NIV Application Bible and NIV Application Commentary Resources by visiting faithgateway.com/nivab and using promo code RBG. OUR PLACE: Stop cooking with toxic cookware, and upgrade to Our Place today. Visit fromourplace.com/RBG and use code RBG for 10% off sitewide. HIYA: Visit hiyahealth.com/RBG to get 50% off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Think about cheese.

0:02.1

Make your thoughts cheesier.

0:04.2

Now add 100% chicken breast fillet,

0:06.3

Chipotle sauce and Amadea cheese melt.

0:08.3

And it's giving the new cheesy chicken stack at McDonald's.

0:12.0

Did we mention it's cheesy?

0:13.9

Cheese.

0:15.8

Availments at the 4th of Jan, 2026 from 11am.

0:18.1

Plus and participation may vary.

0:19.2

Subjects availability. Hey, friends.

0:30.1

Welcome to the Raising Boys and Girls podcast.

0:32.5

I'm Sissy Goff.

0:33.6

And I'm David Thomas,

0:34.8

and we're so glad you've joined us for this conversation.

0:38.3

Let's dive in.

0:45.3

It's time to jump in and talk about any gram mates, who are often called the Challenger, the Protector, or the Boss.

0:55.4

They bring bold, powerful strengths rooted in their desire for honesty, justice, and protection.

1:03.9

They are some of the most strong-hearted.

1:06.5

And I have to tell you, I love that word because I think you and I would say on the front side of

1:13.1

development, these are kids who just look strong-willed. And I think it's so good to think about

1:17.8

them as strong-hearted because they are. They're instinctive and impactful people. So.

1:24.6

And I want to say, I think they're really soft-hearted, too. I think when I think they feel so

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