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Episode 33: Overture (with the Internet History Podcast!)

Acquired

Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal

Venturecapital, Ma, Investing, Acquisitions, Startups, Vc, Investment, Business, Technology

4.82.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2017

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Episode 33: Overture (with the Internet History Podcast!) Ben & David dive deep into the early days of internet search, with the help of the best in the internet history business: Brian McCullough from the Internet History Podcast! We are huge fans of IHP at Acquired, so this was a real treat to collaborate with Brian and the great work he does over there. In this episode we cover the story of how a small incubator in Southern California spawned perhaps the greatest tech business model of all-time, Yahoo!’s fumbling of that golden opportunity, and Google’s recovery of that fumble to cross into the end zone of tech history behind the biggest moat ever constructed on the internet.

Sponsors:
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Modern Treasury: https://bit.ly/acquiredmoderntreasury


Topics covered include:
  • Overture’s origins as part of the Idealab incubator run by famed early internet entrepreneur Bill Gross
  • Invention of the paid search business model… initially by returning ADS ONLY in response to search queries
  • The eventual marrying of Overture’s paid search (ads) with organic search results via syndication on other properties like Yahoo!
  • Revenue from Overture’s ad partnership saving Yahoo!’s business after the internet bubble burst
  • Yahoo!’s eventual acquisition of Overture for $1.4B in 2003
  • But… the really interesting story here: Overture’s 'inspiration' of Google’s business model and the creation of "the greatest advertising machine in the history of the world"
  • The original (pre-Overture) Google business model: selling a box!
  • Google’s differentiation vs Overture: focusing on the long tail, ad quality scores, and an advertiser-friendly auction structure
  • Google’s first major search syndication victory over Overture: AOL
  • Yahoo!’s failed attempt to buy Google for $3B in 2002, leading it to settle for acquiring Overture instead the following year
  • Project Panama” at Yahoo!, and its impact on the tech and internet history
  • Overture's (and later Yahoo!’s) lawsuit against Google for stealing the paid search business model— "the O.G. version of Snapchat and Instagram”
  • Paul Graham’s take on "What Happened to Yahoo?”
  • Perhaps the most important technology to come out of this whole episode: Hadoop
  • The power of incentive alignment in marketplaces— and creating the widest and deepest moats on the internet

The Carve Out:

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0:00.0

Brian have you ever had to cancel an episode like mid- episode because something was going wrong and it was just unrecoverable

0:07.8

Yes, actually the one that was the worst that I still released was ironically enough, the guy that invented

0:15.8

the MP3, and we, right. Welcome back to episode 33 of Acquired, the show about technology acquisitions and I POs.

0:36.8

I'm Ben Gilbert.

0:37.8

I'm David Rosenthal.

0:39.2

And we are your hosts.

0:40.6

Today we've got a great guest with us Brian McCullough from the Internet History

0:44.7

Podcast. We are huge, huge fans of Brian's podcast here on Acquired so

0:49.8

super, super-pump to have him joining us today.

0:53.0

We're doing a double episode, so you'll be able to hear a version of this episode on Brian's

0:58.8

podcast as well, and today we will be talking about the Valley Shaping acquisition that happened in 2003 of Yahoo acquiring

1:07.6

Overture.

1:08.6

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1:16.0

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1:20.8

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1:39.0

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