EPISODE 32A Anything That Moves (Part 1): The Parallel Stories of Sand Creek and My Lai

History on Fire

Daniele Bolelli

Society & Culture

4.7 • 5.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2018

⏱️ 131 minutes

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"Every Day/ On our fellow man we prey/ Dog eat Dog/ To Get by/ Hope you like my genocide” The Offspring “Hello darkness, my old friend…” Simon and Garfunkel “I believe now it is but the commencement of war with this tribe, which must result in their extermination.” Major Jacob Downing “Damn any man who sympathizes with Indians! ... I have come to kill Indians, and believe it is right and honorable to use any means under God's heaven to kill Indians. ... Kill and scalp all, big and little; nits make lice.” Quote attributed to Colonel John Chivington “They were so honorable and so strong, but I felt like they were alone and sometimes when you want to do the right thing, the people that want to do the right thing suffer… even today.” Lorraine Waters about Silas Soule and Joseph Cramer “It was hard to see little children on their knees… having their brains beat out by men professing to be civilized.” Silas Soule I’m not going to lie. This is one of the darkest episodes of History on Fire. But there are reasons for this journey into the heart of darkness. The stories of Sand Creek and My Lai offer an opportunity to explore human agency, the choices separating good and evil, and how some individuals can choose to become sources of light even in the most horrible circumstances. In this first part, we will explore the events that in Colorado in the late 1850s and early 1860s led to a dramatic clash between the Cheyenne tribe and the United States. Within the context of this painfully ugly story, 26-year-old Captain Silas Soule offers a shining example of heroism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Whether or not you're into history, if you care about bravery, wisdom, passion, larger-than-life characters,
0:06.0	and some of the most emotionally intense moments in human experience, you've come to the right place.
0:12.0	Danieli Bollelli is a university history professor, writer and martial artist,
0:17.0	and he shall be your guide in a journey to the place where history and epic collide.
0:30.0	Danieli Bollelli is a university of history and epic collide.
1:00.0	Welcome to episode 32 of History on Fire.
1:03.0	This episode is actually going to be divided in a part A and part B.
1:07.0	Part B is going to release just 24 hours later, so by the time most of you guys hear this,
1:13.0	it will be already be out, but just so you know it's this episode is separated in two different files.
1:20.0	For a simple reason, this episode is a little different from what we normally do.
1:24.0	In the sense that there's a comparing contrast between two historical events,
1:30.0	and I cover one of them in this episode, and then my friend and amazing podcast,
1:37.0	Derail Cooper, did the second part of the episode in part B.
1:42.0	After that we're going to then get together and record the next episode,
1:48.0	episode 33, which will be where we draw the conclusions from some of the stories that we highlight.
1:54.0	Both of them are, you know, if we are to pack everything in one episode,
1:59.0	which was the original plan, it may have been too long, so this is the way we do this.
2:04.0	So keep an eye out also for the second half of episode 32 coming up tomorrow.
2:11.0	In the meantime, couple of things.
2:14.0	If you guys want to get, you want to support the show,
2:19.0	there's always the option of checking out the Patreon page for History on Fire.
2:24.0	I'll have the links in the episode notes at historyonfirepodcast.com.
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