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Life After MLM

Episode 329 : Cathy Callahan

Life After MLM

Roberta Blevins

Education, Society & Culture

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Cathy reached out to me back in the summer to inquire about sharing a perspective that wasn't entirely "Anti-MLM". She had had an extensive and successful experience in the MLM industry, and had helped many people transition into entrepreneurship, while highlighting the lessons learned and the importance of recognizing red flags. In our chat we discuss the evolution of MLM from the pre-social media era to the current landscape, and the shocking realities faced by many in the industry. Along the way, Cathy has a couple of realizations that make me excited for where her Anti-MLM journey is headed.

Show Notes

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The Influence Continuum

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⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Dupes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

How can you help?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Change⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Truth in Advertising⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report to your state Attorney General's office!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Hey, I'm Roberta Blevins, and this is live after MLM, a podcast where we worked and the stigma of failure in an industry systemically designed for you to fail.

1:30.3

Join us as we dive into the real life stories of survivors, experts, and advocates as we debunk the common myths and fallacies of cults, frauds, scams, and multi-level marketing. I'm The The The

1:47.0

The Hey, HunBots and Hun bros, we've got a brand new MLM-based episode today. I don't know if you follow

2:22.7

on social media or remember me asking questions recently about a pro-MLM guest coming on. I'm wanting to

2:29.8

answer the questions you might have of them. Well, this is that episode, and I am so excited for you to

2:36.2

meet Kathy. When I said she was pro-MLM, it's only because she doesn't identify as anti-MLM,

2:42.2

but you will see in our chat that while Kathy and I may have differing opinions on some things,

2:47.5

most of the stuff we do agree on. Kathy will be back in the future because her journey

2:53.1

is just beginning. And I'm excited to see how much she's learned even just since we talked in

2:57.7

October. As you're listening to this, if you have any questions for Kathy, please write them down,

3:03.7

send them into me. And we're going to do some fun stuff like on Patreon or Discord. I haven't really

3:08.5

decided yet. All I know is it's almost Christmas. It's almost New Year's. And I don't want to put anything

3:14.2

more daunting on my plate. So from here on out, all of our episodes are going to be more fun and lighthearted.

3:21.2

We've got some end of the year wrap-ups, some blooper stuff. We've got that episode

3:25.5

on Dare coming up. I don't want to make things like more time-consuming than they already are,

3:31.1

especially with all of the holidays coming up. So what I had planned for the end of the year,

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